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Here is a little project designed to bring about more clarity for you.
Take a piece of paper and think of several ways of answering the following:
What would your answer be to someone who insists that NLP or Time Line Therapy(r) is manipulation, a pseudo-science, or the work of the devil?
what about when they say that if they’re meant to be victims of traumatic events from their past, there is nothing they can do to change their fate and if this is their destiny, better not interfere with it.
rite down your answers. Be specific and clear. Specific and linear (sensor) works better than big picture and simultaneous (intuitor) in this delivery. Exchange ideas in the forum. -
Manipulation:
Thank you for bringing up the point of manipulation, John Doe. Did you know that the first listed dictionary definition of manipulation is actually a positive one? Defining it as an action whereby someone handles, controls, and uses a tool in a skillful or clever manner. A tool is defined as something that is used to carry out a particular function. NLP and Time Line Therapy are tools that thoroughly carry out the function of eliminating what a client deems negative in their lives; removing all blockages for their goals, and allowing them to experience more positive emotions plus a way to attain all the fulfillment they’ve been seeking. I have been skillfully trained by the best in the field to use these life-changing tools with the highest integrity, so that I can be clever enough to think circles around your problems, so together we can unblock your mindset and unlock your greatest potential.
So if this is the type of manipulation that concerns you rather than excites you, then maybe you’re not ready yet. If you are excited about the possibilities of NLP and TLT, let’s talk about your biggest dreams and how we’re going to make them come true. -
There is no evidence that NLP works.
No evidence? Really? What sort of evidence do you require?There is no science behind Time Line Therapy(R).
Time Line Therapy is a form of hypnosis. It guides your unconscious mind to let go of unconscious negative emotions and limiting decisions and to get conscious positive learnings for your future. Wouldn’t it be great to release all the negative things that have held you back in the past and have new resources to apply in your future? What is holding you back from what you are committed to? Would you like so easily and effortlessly get beyond those past limitations? And be free to start taking action toward your goals? -
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Hi – here are some of the answers I can think of to these objections:
NLP as a manipulation tool? There are indeed ppl who see NLP as a manipulation tool but then think again of any other tools that we use on daily basis such as knife or a phone or anything else. The tool in itself has no other meaning or purpose than the one you give to it. Think of a phone for ex: it can help you connect with ppl you love but when you realize that you waste hours reading posts on FB and giving Likes to ppl you have never met, then it becomes a different thing. And you become maybe up-set with yourself, frustrated even for not being able to control it and before you know it, it almost becomes an addiction. And this is where NLP can help you become more present, more grounded and aware of what you are doing, always keeping in mind the purpose for doing what you are doing, be more in control of yourself and your outcomes and live a more fulfilling life.
Hypnoses as manipulation: one of the biggest AHA moments people have when taking a Hypnoses training is that the client is the one holding the pendulum and not the other way around as you may have seen in the movies. And the reason why it is so is because the pendulum is nothing hut a means for the client to communicate with its own unconscious mind and to get feedback and give specific instructions for healing, learning and changing habits.
Staying a victim: you may as well stay a victim for the rest of your life, no one will notice or bother much about it. They may offer to help or support now and then but they all have their own lives to take care of. No one can tell you what to do or not do and by the way who says or how did you get the idea or the confirmation that this is the life you are supposed to live? Was there a sign, a letter you received from the sky or how specifically did you become convinced that this is 100% for sure your destiny? Just ask yourself this question. Was it really destined to be that way or was there something you could do about the situation now that you think about it. But because you did not know some things back then but now you do, you would have approached it with a different attitude and mindset. And this is how NLP actually empowers people, to always think about the options they have, make choices and decisions of their own, determine the results they want to get and stay focused on where they want for themselves.
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Daaaaang Cristina!!! You are spicy! I like your “Victim” reframe!!!
BEAUTIFUL: You may as well stay a victim for the rest of your life, no one will notice or bother much about it. They may offer to help or support now and then but they all have their own lives to take care of.
This is so artful đ it made me go so internal that I even said to myself “F that! If no one cares that I’m a victim, I wanna be empowered for me!”
I like your Hypnosis one…I’d add an example demystifying Stage Show as well…that’s what most people have in mind when they have adverse reactions to Hypnosis đ
And religious views about being taken over by a spirit during Hypnosis…this one still confuses me since when we’re in prayer we are in hypnosis!!!
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NLP is A pseudo-science: I am not sure what you mean by pseudo-science, do you mean it is not science? Do you mean like developing pharmaceutical drugs are a science? Psychology is science?
NLP is both an art and a science. Anytime you are dealing with the human brain, emotions, and performance you have to use both art and science to make change without drugs.
TLT is pseudo-science, Iâm not sure what that means? Is that important to you or are results important to you? Time Line Therapy ÂŽ gets results.
NLP is the work of the devil? No, Iâm sorry, you were misinformed, it is the work of researchers at UC Santa Cruz led by Richard Bandler and John Grinder modeled after Milton Erikson, Virginia Satir and other real people for the benefit of others.
TLT is the work of the devil? No, Iâve met the innovator of TLT and I assure you, he is not the devil. Have you met the devil? Have you met Tad James?
Are you telling me you are meant to be a victim of the past and you are absolutely sure that you are not allowed to learn the lessons from it and let the trauma go, So that, you can use the lessons in your future for your benefit and the benefit of others? Is that what you mean?
If you’re absolutely sure you would like to stay the victim of the past and play that out in your mind and body as possible disease, I can’t argue that. Yet, if you would like the tools of empowerment and learning that your unconscious can provide you with the learning that will make all of your past have meaning and give you the resources to face the future, I can help you with that.
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Hi All,
Here are some responses. I am thinking the more we have on the forum the more we will have to dispel any unfounded beliefs! I think that crafting statements for me is pitching at the VL and their model of the world to help with impact…
Manipulation! Really? Doctors manipulate shoulder joints, hip joints and knee joints! Arenât you glad that manipulation is used positively in the world to help our health?
Pseudoscience? Tell me, how specifically do you represent NLP and TLT as a pseudoscience to yourself? How would you know if that wasnât true?
Devilâs work? Did you know that flying was once considered devilâs work? Do you travel by plane anywhere? Is plane travel devilâs work?
Pseudoscience! Wow, I like that, are you a flexible solutions focused thinker or do you prefer to think in the dark because flexible solutions focused thinkers of the future will only say things that have high level meaning and high level relevance.
Manipulation? Now tell me, have you seen a physiotherapist?âŚ. Because their manipulation gives you relief doesnât it? So, itâs fair to say that manipulation gives positive outcomes, doesn’t it? (aiming for the yes set here)
Pseudoscience! Devilâs workâŚ.Really? I thought you are a progressive and independent learned thinker. When did you decide that believing othersâ model of the world is positive for your progressive and intelligent model of the world? You are either progressive and believe in your intelligent and discerning mind or you want to be ledâŚ.which is it?
Manipulation, pseudoscience, devilâs work? Who are you hanging around with? With your brilliant and open mind I would have thought that you will choose to be open minded and learn for yourself first! ( relates to You’re The Average Of The Five People You Spend your time with)
Manipulation, pseudoscience, devilâs work? If everyone believed the closed thinking of the past, we would never have the open thinking that is benefiting our world today.
Manipulation, a pseudo science, the work of the devil? Goethe once said âeverything is hard before it is easyâ so really, you need to look at how NLP and TLT is easy to understand and you will dispel the myths you have heard. Here is the date of the next seminar, register now and you will learn for yourself!
Manipulation, a pseudo science, the work of the devil? Now, your words interest me deeply⌠Are you saying these words because you genuinely believe after doing your own extensive scientific research that NLP and Time Line Therapy(R) are definitely manipulation, pseudosciences and the work of the devil? Hereâs the thing, did you know that the latest research published in a highly regarded medical journal called Brain Science indicates that neurogenesis of injured brain parts can halt the impact of diseases like Alzheimerâs? So let me ask you, if you can help someone close to you to have relief from chronic pain and to let go of the negative emotions crippling their mind and body, are you saying that you wouldnât help them because your unfounded belief is more important to you than their life?
Manipulation! Now that is a fascinating word to use so easily when you are talking about proven techniques that have benefitted thousands of people! Iâm curiousâŚ.did you know that in the 1700s the word manipulation started being used? In fact the word refers to âskilful handlingâ, so I am relieved to hear that you believe that NLP and TLT are skilful techniques because you are rightâŚ.in fact great skill is needed to work in the area of NLP and TLT for the betterment of the whole world. Now wouldnât you rather learn about NLP and TLT and help others or wouldnât you ask me more questions to learn how these skilful techniques will help you change your life?
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And I forgot the second part… here it is…
Are you saying that you like being a victim? What would happen if you were not a victim? What would not happen if you were a victim? What would not happen if you were not a victim?
By you giving yourself permission to choose to live a life of a victim you are indeed creating your fate of nothingness, a fate that others will not care about, would rather forget about your trauma because you want to be a victim. Only you can do something to change your repressed negative emotions, so why not let go and get the same results in some other way.
Do you want pity? Do you like being a victim and hanging on to the trauma? Is it giving you something you like? Wouldnât it be better to let go of the negative emotions attached to that trauma and clear your mind so that you can get something else that makes you feel good about yourself now?
Is that a belief you would like your children or the children of your close friends to have? Because if everyone had that belief, the planet will not have a hope, there will be no future at all! Is that what you really want?
Your victimhood must have some purpose for you or else you would have let go of it and given yourself permission to change your fate. Only you can do it.
No one in the world wants you suffer. Do you want to suffer? You can either change your thinking now or experience Time Line TherapyÂŽ and allow yourself a real glimpse into a destiny that will give you hope. Which one is it?
Mandela was a victim. Or was he? What did he choose? To be a victim of beatings and starvation or to be a champion and help change his life and the lives of others? You will either choose to be a victim or choose to change your destiny yourself.
Malala was just a teenager going to school when she was shot. She could have chosen to be a victim and lament her destiny as a sufferer and moan and groan. She chose to change her destiny herself, inside her head and in doing so changed her life.
That thinking will only lead to a dead-end life that right now you obviously want because your type of thinking leads to severe illnesses and a huge burden on society. Do you want to be a burden on yourself and others or do you want to step up and do something positive for yourself now?
For how long do you want to hold onto the trauma? You can either burden yourself with your victimhood or let go of the repressed emotions and get the results in some other way? You can then change your own destiny. Only you can do it now. No one else can.
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